This is what happened after a short but brief visit to the (closed group)
new Official Most Haunted on Facebook
In a few weeks from now, most haunted will be back on British TV screens on the Really channel. A new discussion group (forum) has sprung recently on facebook, run by some of the MH crew, admins Fred Batt, Karl Beattie, Stuart Torevell and Wayne Seaden, Seaden appears to be the main admin on there, looks like its run by a big MH fan.
Welcome to the sickly sweet 'MH family' we are all friendly here, (only if you are a believer (barf) the forum consists mainly of a plethora of photos or amateur recordings from iphones etc.. taken by some posters. Typically 'orbs' 'whisps' pixelated images of so-called figures, shadows, reflections, faces.
|'THE GHOST NEXT TO THE FIREPLACE' A terrible attempt at a ghost photo|
This image in particular garnered some accepting responses which went into double figures, such as - oh that's creepy, 'its a monk', its on the right, a ghostly figure, oh yes I see it I see it, that's weird, wonder what it is.... As I pointed out to this captivated audience that it was an obvious 'fake' a 2 layered overlay probably created on one of a number of photo editing suites; my comment was ignored, frustrating, the adjectives kept coming thick and fast.. wow, super catch, amazing, creepy.. it was pointed out by a number of rationally minded readers including myself that it was a fake. You can clearly see the sharp straight lines both top and bottom on the above image, clearly some amateur photoshopper having a play with the crop tool, they didn't even take the time to blend the edges to make it believable. I can't understand why nobody could see the obvious crop, some did..most didn't.
But, what got me more, was not the blatant fakery that was going on on the forum but the bitter arguments between believers and skeptics regarding these types of images. The majority of them weren't faked but could be explained away quite easily, ie Apophenia, pareidolia, (matrixing) by the rational folk but believers were coming to blows over it, especially the original poster, they would get on the offensive showing classic signs of confirmation bias towards their image, the believers siding with the poster complaining that the skeptics were rude, unkind nasty and undermining their photos, although they did initially ask for an opinion, of which only their opinion counted. Their also appeared to be a very strong communal reinforcement on the believer side.
There just seemed to be not just a lack of critical thinking amongst the community, but also a lack of intelligence although saying that, it is understandable that folks who are new to the paranormal probably just don't understand what they are seeing or the terms put in front of them. We explained to people time after time in layman's terms why faces are seen in orbs (pareidolia) and the 'if you go out looking for it you will probably find it' effect, as in faces in the window (some images embedded via popular news sites). Folks still simply believed it was 'paranormal' without question. It came to the conclusion that they were being bullied by skeptics (the bad guys) on the forum and removed their images without warning.
Dear Reader, sorry I know this sounds so homogenized...yeh.. I have heard it all before too, 10 years of it! Its not going to change. Ever.
Dare mention the word FAKE on the forum and they would go running to admin to ban or block you. And the main one 'I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION!'
Come on folks, how long ago was it since the word 'orb' came on to the scene? Early 2000's Surely folks have had 12 years to figure it out.
I have a picture of some French poodles haha..
I pointed out that getting the believers to think rationally was like shooting at rubber ducks, hence I received a private message to remove my comment because it was classed as offensive.
Some of the images were removed by the original posters, many discussions were removed by admin, unfortunately he was removing the healthier constructive arguments,
the ones people were getting their teeth into. But the dust stayed put, not even a Dyson could remove it. (silly orbs images)
Many were called to arms (so to speak) getting the admin involved asking him why he was removing the more healthier discussions as they were getting deleted, he responded because they were offensive, actually none were offensive, none, but some people just can't handle constructive criticism and rationality.
The majority of images were pareidolia related.
a classic case of True Believer Syndrome
After a weeks stay on there, I had seen enough, once people's minds made up they will believe what they want to believe no matter what you say to them, they will continue to act like a bunch of sheep and accept anything that is put in-front of them.
I noticed that the majority of members were women fans, women seemed to be more accepting whilst I had noticed that the guys were equally skeptical. There were a handful of female skeptics including myself, but we were in the minority, saying that, why join a MH group if you are a skeptic, I am however interested in belief systems in general and wanted to see what went on on the forum. It was as I had expected.
It seems that the forum is bias towards the believers, what does that say about Most Haunted???
Hence it is hard to sink a rubber duck
Bullshit baffles brains